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    Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 9:26pm
I've been trying to figure out the HILEY.FIVE STAR since I bought this game over a year ago. Yesterday, some forum users encouraged me to crack open the game files. It looks like there's no refernce to HILEY in the MIA facilities DynamicRouteImpl file. Does this mean that someone forgot to add the STAR to the game?

Can I add it myself? Seems like I should be able to tinker with the database and do it, but I'd appreciate some guidance. Per the route published on the ATC-Pro support page, the pertinent part of the east landing route is HILEY.FIVE runway  (16000) - KAINS (8000) - CIMBA (4000) - JESSS (3000) - RUBOE.  I presume the waypoints are all programmed, it would just be a function of stringing the two points together as legs. I don't understand how we get a series of legs programmed into a single command for the STAR, though. Like I said, I'd appreciate any guidance.
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Hi there

Send me an email to hnorgaar@gmail.com and I can send you the text to copy and paste into your DynamicRouteImpl file for KMIA.

The HILEY5 are in the game and is programmed in the SQL lite database in the data folder, named planning, but does not have the altitude programmed. This can be done easily if you know how to do that.

Open the before mentioned database and goto browse data tab, choose terminalLegs from table and in search terminalID put 30856, which is HILEY5. The wptID is referring to the waypoint and have to be looked up first to translate the waypoints names into wptID you want to change in the waypoints table. In terminalLegs you will find a row named alt and have to follow this rule, 16000, 08000, 04000, 03000 and can add A or B for above or below as 08000A

Hope this can help you

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Hi Henrik, thanks for the tips. I went into the Planning.db and added altitudes as you suggested. I made some adjustments to make sure that the traffic stays within the Miami north approach sector throughout the route. Basically, everyone arrives at 16,000 and stays there until after HILEY, then descends to the floor of my airspace as it moves closer to the runway. I copied my changes below. Then, I took a stab at editing the DynamicRouteImpl file to see if I could make the route work. I’m by no means a programmer, and it should come as no surprise that my edits failed. I’m looking forward to your suggestions for getting the route working again. Please feel free to post here, or email me back (I sent you a message this evening). Thanks again for all your help!

 

My edits to TerminalID 30856 in Terminal Legs:

JORAY Transition

JORAY (25394) 18000

OSOGY (26049) 16000

AMZAR (24239) 16000

STAPL (26488) 16000

MILSY (25854) 16000

BOYUR (24438) 16000

HILEY (25197) 16000

 

OMN Transition

OMN (183574) 18000

MALET (25789) 18000

PCMAN (26087) 16000

MLB (183554) 16000

TRV (183611) 16000

PHORD (26137) 16000

SMUGS (26440) 16000

MORGA (25890) 16000

PBI (183580) 16000

BTOGA (24466) 16000

HILEY (25197) 16000

 

ZPF Transition

ZPF (184359) 16000

STAPL (26488) 16000

MILSY (25854) 16000

BOYUR (24438) 16000

HILEY (25197) 16000

 

ALL

HILEY (25197) 16000

KAINS (25436) 08000

CIMBA (24593) 08000

JESSS (25359) 06000

RUBOE (26328) 04000

 

My edits to DynamicRouteImpl:

 

hiley [five] [ arrival ] [joray] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight left] [transition] {out="HILEY5.JORAY.08L.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [joray] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight right] [transition] {out="HILEY5.JORAY.08R.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [joray] [transition] [runway] [[zero] niner] [transition] {out="HILEY5.JORAY.09.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [ormond] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight left] [transition] {out="HILEY5.OMN.08L.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [ormond] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight right] [transition] {out="HILEY5.OMN.08R.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [ormond] [transition] [runway] [[zero] niner] [transition] {out="HILEY5.OMN.09.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [freeport] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight left] [transition] {out="HILEY5.ZPF.08L.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [freeport] [transition] [runway] [[zero] eight right] [transition] {out="HILEY5.ZPF.08R.1";}

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hiley [five] [ arrival ] [freeport] [transition] [runway] [[zero] niner] [transition] {out="HILEY5.ZPF.09.1";}

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hnorgaar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Dec 2018 at 2:41pm
The last step to make it work is in the same place you edited the altitudes to change the rows with ALL in the Transition row to RW08L, (it will work for all runways even you only have 08L there, as it is the same path for all runways), and the Type row from 5 to 6, and fire up ATCPRO use descend via Hiley5


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Edited by hnorgaar - 30 Dec 2018 at 10:31am
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Hi guys. I made all the alterations above and still no joy. The SR is recognizing it just fine, but no response from pilots and no descending on the arrival. I changed the altitudes in planning.db, changed the transition to "RW08L" and type to 6 and added the above text to DynamicRouteImpl.txt. Did I miss something?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hnorgaar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2018 at 1:36pm
It works fine for me so make sure you put RW08L in transition, not 08L as I wrote first, acknowledge the plane with "DAL54 radar contact, expect rwy 8L", when inside your airspace or shortly before "DAL54 descend via Hiley5"

Should work, let me know how it goes
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jsabot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2018 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by hnorgaar hnorgaar wrote:

It works fine for me so make sure you put RW08L in transition, not 08L as I wrote first, acknowledge the plane with "DAL54 radar contact, expect rwy 8L", when inside your airspace or shortly before "DAL54 descend via Hiley5"

Should work, let me know how it goes


If it works for you, why not upload your db file to show us? or send a screenshot
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Here is my 2 databases shared on Dropbox, feel free to give it a try


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It finally works! Thanks for sharing the databases, it works for me.

"AAL123 expect runway eight left"
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"AAL123 descend via hiley eight left transition"
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Still need to edit the waypoint altitudes if you want to keep the descent within the N airspace, otherwise they'll drop below 8k at KAINS, but that's an easy task.

Thanks again Henrik!
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I did the edit as well but for the Scott2 arrival and after scott they turn to go back to the beginning of the arrival lol.
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