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Originally posted by deltamike172 deltamike172 wrote:

The purpose of Center Finals is very simple.  They don't own much.  It's for when they're landing triple ILSs.  They only own the far end of the finals box at 7000, and then the localizer for 27L/9R.  That's it.  During land east, only planes from the northwest or southwest would get assigned 9R, and during land west, only planes from the northeast or southeast would be assigned 27L.  Generally, I think they just pick the busiest flow, from ONE of those valid directions, and assign just those the center runway.  You'll note, on the RNAV STARs, that the 27L/9R transitions have restrictions at 7000 to make sure they are in Center Finals airspace.  The north and south finals own underneath. 

***In case you haven't realized it yet:  If you open up the maps menu, open up the "AIR SPC" button, and each sector in each flow can be labelled with what altitudes they own.  

Then they mix the other three flows to the north or south ILSs, using the crossover transitions to get the north arrivals to the south runway and visa versa to even out the flow, or to favor the north runway since it's close to the terminals.  

Great explination, DeltaMike. I used to work in ZTL in Area 3 (Logen/FLCON) arrival. What I observed was that during our busiest times, most FLCON arrivals would be routed onto the 27L final, as is the case in ATCPro. However, I believe the A80 controller responsible for the Center Final would keep the aircraft all the way down the final. At times, the SINCA feed was busier and they would get the dedicated final (basically allows the ARTCC to pass 5 miles in trail to the TRACON). On an east flow, FLCONs head to 08L with the northwest feed from Area 6 getting the 9R final. For most of the day the TIROE and SINCA feeds were light enough to allow a blended final on the south runway. 

The way it is currently simulated, the aircraft is required to be handed from the Center Final controller to the South Final Controller. And then for some reason, South Final flashes the target back to the Feeder sector (Y) for a short time before going back to South Final (A). 

I believe this due to some odd sector boundary issues in the sim. The boundaries on the South Finals and between H & Y are a little bizarre.  

My assumption is that this due to the multiple configurations in each flow direction. ATL is generally in a Triple Arrival or Triple Departure configuration. When In triple departure, there would be no Center Final and the 27L final would belong to South Final. I'm not sure if there is any way to remedy this, but perhaps letting the user select the active runways prior to launching the simulation would help? (This would also be nice for ABQ where they wouldn't run west ops for a 3 knot tailwind, and MCI doesn't go to the Single runway flow if the winds aren't in excessive crosswind. I feel like any runway should be able to be used if the tailwind component doesn't exceed 10 knots or crosswind exceeds 30.)


Edited by Elusive Napkin - 04 Feb 2016 at 2:23pm
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