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    Posted: 07 Feb 2022 at 3:12pm
Been learning the program controlling ABQ South east flow.

Occasionally an arrival will come in from the west and I assign them to runway 8. 

But there is a small chunk of Norths sector that he will cross into. I have tried several techniques to transfer him to North but it seems like I get dinged alot for not having cleared him to North even when I use the C / slew command and he flashes and turns green.

Still get dinged. What am I doing wrong?
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the "C / slew"command sounded an alarm bell here. It sounds like you are trying to do a handoff to Center.

Press [F8] to be in handoff mode, and "1N" as the position you want to hand off to and then slew.

Depending a bit on the angle and position where that aircraft crosses over to 1N:s airspace this will work like a charm or the AI controller gets grump, turn the plane south and hand him back to you. Experiment and you shall succeed!

Yell if you don't get it to work and I'll make a video to show you how to do it some day when I don't have to RUUUUUNNNNNN to work.


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Thanks for the advice.

I was actually totally un aware of the F8 command. Will try this later today thanks.

Now if I could just get the voice recog to recognize YUGLU!
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Well I tried the F8 / 1N 'slew' and got a "Thats the wrong controller' ding.

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Wrong Controller by Tom Whit, on Flickr
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Alright.. Fishy!

Not sure why that happens but we probably are doing something a little bit diffrently

I made a short video where I handle that aircraft


Check and see what we are doing diffrent.

From the top of my head I would look at:
1. Login method
2. The "expect runway 8" is correctly followed by the strip moving in below "RWY 8"
3.The handoff procedure including:
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*The altitude of the aircraft when the handover is initiated
*the heading at that time
*the distance remaining to 1N

Hope this helps, otherwise if you can provide a similar clip that I can look at that would help troubleshooting.

regards,
Alexander


Edited by wheniwasinspace - 10 Feb 2022 at 2:13am
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Oh and I forgot.... About Yuglu or any other fix that doesn't work out for you or isn't right
(I listen to ABQ on https://www.liveatc.net/ and they never ever say FAT TEES or DUM EMZ. It's Always Fat and Dumb)

Take a look at the file DynamicFixImpl.txt in
%ProgramData%\Flag Mountain\ATCpro\Facilities\ABQ

Those are the fix names that the AI listen for when you speak coupled to a database ID of the fix. Make a backup and of the original file and toy around with the fixes so they work for you.
Yuglu Yougloo Jagloo Yaggloe and so forth. I'm sure you'll find something that works.

I've changed FATTT to FATT and DUMMM to DUMM and that works like a charm with my swedish accent. But I guess this is very individual

If you put on the NAVIAD2 map you can see a VOR named OTO to the east of the tracon sectors. That one they forgot to put in the text file so you can not give short cuts there out of the box.
add the line
otto {out="0,182780";}
or ott oh or something like that and NOW you can send planes there because the VOR is in the database and has an ID. It's only forgotten in the txt-file.
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Thanks for the input. I will look into the database.

It's mostly my mush mouth most of the time. I just find it odd that some planes get the instruction right away and others are kind of thick headed.

I will clear one direct cian join the manzano 2 departure and he responds and follows.

Next one same damn instruction "Could you repeat that" two or three times untill I just give up and send them direct cian.
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